So when Will asked me to join his Klyde Hackweek project, I thought - awesomeness, let's try and finally move something forward! And that happened, we had lots of fun and I learned some real packaging tricks. I'll bore you with epic details at a later time ;-)
We realize the idea of Klyde and what we aim to do is a tad vague so Will and I had a long chat yesterday and came up with some more details about our focus.
1. Modular for everybody
The first goal is to make everything more modular. The openSUSE KDE team did a huge effor here, simplifying dependencies so you can have a Plasma Desktop without most applets, Activities, Nepomuk or Akonadi. Of course, that means you give up on good and useful functionality but reality is that we don't always need everything. This way the functionality is optional and this will hopefully become the default packaging state for openSUSE. What you don't use will not add menu items, widgets and memory usage to your system.By default, a 'Klyde' desktop comes with none of the above-mentioned things and only a minimum of applications and applets. But upon installation of Activities the widget will be added to your panel and Akonadi will fire up the first time you start up KMail or Akregator!
2. Low footprint if you want
We know that 'lightweight' is not easy to define and it is hard to do scientific measurements of memory usage and all that.Currently, the Klyde settings have some obvious things (disabling animations, disabling some services etcetera) and lots of temporary choices (plastique as widget style for example). We WANT to make informed choices here and input from developers on what is faster (even if that means loosing some functionality or eyecandy) is very much welcome. And we realize work will be needed: we would greatly welcome help creating a fast and efficient widget style, for example.
3. Simple by default
systemsettings simplified. |
This is an example of what we mean by simple, although we're not done yet. Ideally, these and other improvements will go upstream and we intend to put work into that.
Note that this simplification, in no way, can be scientific. Of course 30 KCM modules is more 'simple' than 80 but it is very much a matter of taste to decide which ones need to be there and which ones don't. That's why we want to put effort in having our cake and eating it too: creating a proper theming KCM might allow us to get rid of a whole raft of theming-related KCM's, for example. Yup, we're still KDE people... But in other places, we are willing to make hard choices based on common sense, research and simply our taste. Unless a designer can convince us he/she Is Right™ we reserve the right to make bad decisions.
Feedback?
We're open for feedback and would love to hear input. Please remember that we're trying to get stuff done so if you have input, put in the effort to make it useful. Have mockups, refer to what others do or scientific facts. Remember that we are not trying to create a desktop for experienced computer users and tinkerers: they can easily morph the normal Plasma Desktop into what they want. It's what I do myself, its what the vast majority of people who read this do.Instead we aim for a wide cross-section of people who don't want to put in the cognitive effort to understand abstract stuff like virtual desktops or activities. If you understand and use these things to be more productive (which I do myself, by the way), you're not our target audience.
If you want to help out, join the #opensuse-kde channel on freenode and check out our trello board.
Enough talk
Enough talk? Wanna try it? Yeah, it ain't perfect yet, but I've created an initial Studio image and published it in the Gallery. It can be installed, if you insist, but this is a beginning of a work in progress: it will eat babies whenever it can.Click to go to SUSE Studio for the testing appliance.
About packages and a repo, this isn't easy as you would either have to remove packages by hand or start with a very basic system with only X for this to work. We're looking for a solution there ;-)
EDIT: User and root password for the appliance are the SUSE Studio default 'linux'.
Have fun with it ;-)
Klyde in a VM. |
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