tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post7135953807961466493..comments2024-01-16T14:13:50.160+01:00Comments on all mine!: Plasma dev team rocksJos Poortvliethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-87989166344129960772011-02-24T17:52:01.922+01:002011-02-24T17:52:01.922+01:00I just bought the Panasonic 46G10 Plasma. Does it ...I just bought the Panasonic 46G10 Plasma. Does it need a break in period to prevent burn in?Brad Fallonhttp://www.freelinereport.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-59614598134359828102011-02-13T20:46:03.432+01:002011-02-13T20:46:03.432+01:00gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-57607073601683550122009-06-29T13:51:41.191+02:002009-06-29T13:51:41.191+02:00I am really enjoying kde4, and actually kind of en...I am really enjoying kde4, and actually kind of enjoy seeing all the progress made in giant leaps - but really if you kde4 haters/critics don't like it - well people just don't use it.<br /><br />I personally am very grateful to the kde developers for kde4 as I was entirely bored with gnome, kde 3x was OK and having to play with enlightenment (gee it was fast) to have a bit of fun. Thankyou all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-40745661112572164712009-03-30T22:01:00.000+02:002009-03-30T22:01:00.000+02:00:) KdE4 the kids love it:) KdE4 the kids love itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-83953729756823140912009-03-26T10:44:00.000+01:002009-03-26T10:44:00.000+01:00@luis: you mean the Air theme? It should be part o...@luis: you mean the Air theme? It should be part of KDE svn, probably in kdebase/plasma or something... I doubt it's available as a separate theme anywhere.Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-65830896024534601602009-03-26T02:54:00.000+01:002009-03-26T02:54:00.000+01:00Where is this theme... I can't find it anywhere :-...Where is this theme... I can't find it anywhere :-( (it isn't on OpenSUSE BS and I can't find it on KDE svn!)Luis Augustohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17574787433969840143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-45932198670705844522009-03-23T04:39:00.000+01:002009-03-23T04:39:00.000+01:00Sorry KDE4 devs, but can you please realize that y...Sorry KDE4 devs, but can you please realize that you made a huge mistake with 4 and go back to 3.5.x. Fortunately, KDE4 forced me to switch to Gnome which i now like better.<BR/><BR/>I have to agree with "I Love" on most of his points. I don't think the interface copying or not copying windows is important. Even if it wasn't a copy its still a hunk of plasma vomit eye candy with minimal usability improvements.<BR/><BR/>The reason people were upset and "demanding" that KDE4 aquire the features of 3.X NOW is because most distros only support the 4 release, otherwise they would probably still use 3.X.<BR/><BR/>Also, I wish the first developer who said "lets throw 3.X away and make kewl widgets and plasma and stuff" gets kicked in the throat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-42744745553477951122009-03-21T09:38:00.000+01:002009-03-21T09:38:00.000+01:00@I love, I agree, I wanted to remove the last thre...@I love, I agree, I wanted to remove the last three posts here but after some interface changes at blogspot I haven't figured out how to do that yet ;-)<BR/><BR/>As soon as I do, the posts will go.Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-70846801266019681272009-03-20T07:36:00.000+01:002009-03-20T07:36:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-77045708302537808382009-03-20T03:51:00.000+01:002009-03-20T03:51:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818676269706441792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-48802068562989299582009-03-19T17:58:00.000+01:002009-03-19T17:58:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-38392995714887392422009-03-19T07:08:00.000+01:002009-03-19T07:08:00.000+01:00guys,you know you can use webkit in Konqi, right? ...guys,<BR/><BR/>you know you can use webkit in Konqi, right? Under View -> View mode, choose webkit. You can enable it by default under file associations, I believe. The webkit KPart isn't very good right now, and I'm not sure how much work goes into it, but it does work already.Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-55125725510132717892009-03-19T00:12:00.000+01:002009-03-19T00:12:00.000+01:00Hi admiral0,I am looking forward to webkit coming ...Hi admiral0,<BR/><BR/>I am looking forward to webkit coming into Konqueror. You may want to look at rekonq, which is more Dolphin-for-the-web than full blown Konqueror. (and one other whose name I have completely forgotton) :s<BR/><BR/>I agree with your ZUI statement, it doesn't quite make sense to me why two different methods to add workspaces don't go together...<BR/><BR/>However I still love KDE, it looks good, it works fantastic on my Aspire One and I'm damned if I'm changing it (unless KDE4.3 comes out)TGMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06100386595859765185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-84321859076224128792009-03-18T21:20:00.000+01:002009-03-18T21:20:00.000+01:00Hello.I've seen a lot of trolling here :( .I'd lik...Hello.<BR/><BR/>I've seen a lot of trolling here :( .<BR/><BR/>I'd like to point a thing. "I Love" said some interesting things i agree with, but he/she said it not in the right way.<BR/><BR/>Konqueror is a great app. But i would like a better KHTML or 'webkit Kpart'. It's the quickest browser on my desktop. Firefox just hangs sometimes and i have to wait ages for it to load. <BR/><BR/>Yes koffice2 is great in look, but there are too many aspects of it that suck. I use koffice2. I like how it blends with my desktop. I like its amazing speed. But it's different and pretty hard to learn (for me). And kpresenter needs some devel love (backround of slides is really tricky to use :S).<BR/><BR/>Plasma... Well, that ZUI is unuseful to me for now. When i zoom out i my stomach aches :(. It would be more useful a lot by assigning activities to Virtual Desktops (aka Workspaces), but i don't know what are the plans for it. The plasmoids are very cool. I recommend using few of them on the desktop, that's why i would be very happy seeing the integration thing i said above.<BR/><BR/>I used GNOME, KDE, lxde and fluxbox. None of them except kde made me feel really home. It's really easy to customize your desktop to your own needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-84323747402563416552009-03-17T11:29:00.000+01:002009-03-17T11:29:00.000+01:00@elyboy: that's what we've been doing for the last...@elyboy: that's what we've been doing for the last few years now. We're even organized our next annual conferences to be at the same time and location. There is room for improvement but generally we cooperate a lot.<BR/><BR/>However, the fundamental differences in how we approach certain issues (both social and technical) prevent anything more than cooperation.Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-87169228574072873082009-03-16T23:37:00.000+01:002009-03-16T23:37:00.000+01:00KDE and GNOME are both great. But, shouldn't the w...KDE and GNOME are both great. But, shouldn't the work together for standardization? People wanting to switch to linux are confused because of this war...Etchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09743059918129182202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-46547967518822496012009-03-16T17:08:00.000+01:002009-03-16T17:08:00.000+01:00@patkos: I can only agree. Unfortunately the 1.7 g...@patkos: I can only agree. Unfortunately the 1.7 gig was real, without caches :(<BR/><BR/>But yes, the progress is stunning. Unfortunately it is not progress which impresses people, it is Present Results. And while KDE 4.2.1 is a compelling DE, it has about as many disadvantages as it has advantages over competing solutions (gnome, XFCE but also to a lesser extend Win and Mac).<BR/><BR/>I don't doubt 4.3 and further releases will remove many disadvantages and improve on the advantages more and faster than competitors can improve their offerings - it's just sad to have to wait ;-)Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-50273779149460077902009-03-16T16:43:00.000+01:002009-03-16T16:43:00.000+01:00@jospoortvliet:Maybe. Different experiences on dif...@jospoortvliet:<BR/>Maybe. Different experiences on different hardware ... sad it happens. One thing however is certain: KDE4 goes forward. Those who used all versions of KDE4 are aware of the huge differences since the 4.0 release. Back than it was just a promising but badly tested project. All annoyances are getting away, step by step, release by release, it slowly becomes better and better. And yes, I admire the "hole desktop is plasma" idea. Plasma makes KDE4 to be more unified, more elegant and eventually easier to maintain and develop for.<BR/><BR/>Before, there were separate applications for desktop, for panel, for tray, for anything. Now they all are the same. They ar of course different as entities, but same as base and coding. I'm not a KDE developer, but I'm an IT Engineer and I have sufficient programming knowledge to see what is the intent of the KDE4 project is. And their intent and goal is good, it is logical and it is evolution.<BR/><BR/>Now, all I (we) have to do is hope they are capable of making it.<BR/><BR/>And as for the performance problems you mentioned:<BR/>- I had high CPU usage by plasma only once, when I installed KDE 4.2.1 from precompiled Mandriva rpms, and the packed Lancelot plasmoid had some issues. Quickly tracked down the problem on bug lists and forums and installed a newer version of Lancelot from 'trunk'. Now it is OK.<BR/>- As for general higher cpu usage than before, as I mentioned, I am experiencing the opposite. Less usage of resources.<BR/>- On my PC with an NVidia 8600GT, startup memory usage without any applications started is about 300MB and with Opera browser, downloading KTorrent and Kopete and other small stuff, it is usually between 450 and 500MB. <BR/>- On my laptop, with onboard Intel video card, where video memory is shared with/from RAM, memory usage is usually 600-700 MBPatkós Csabahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03865572536612327226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-25161639444319840762009-03-16T16:38:00.000+01:002009-03-16T16:38:00.000+01:00@jos,Regarding the memory issue (desktop vs netboo...@jos,<BR/><BR/>Regarding the memory issue (desktop vs netbook): the 1.8 gig-using machine may just be caching a lot more than your netbook for some reason. My machine is using around 1.7 gig directly after login too (although with quite a few things running in the background), but 700 megs of those are cached.<BR/><BR/>Still quite a bit of memory used, but not too bad considering what is always running on my machine.Jonashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05641138115728091010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-87306118799961555502009-03-16T16:24:00.000+01:002009-03-16T16:24:00.000+01:00@patkos:I agree beauty lies in the eye of the beho...@patkos:<BR/>I agree beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Usually performance should not, but people seem to have very mixed experiences in that regard. I had a look at my KDE desktop memory usage yesterday - 1.8 gig just after logging in (had a few apps running but not that much). Yet it works fine on my netbook, which has 1.5 gig and manages with 500 mb. It must be some configuration difference as they run the same OS and package version. Clearly there must be a plasmoid or something wasting memory - huge amounts of it. Plasma also often uses 100% cpu (I have dualcore, it uses one core fully). Another weird thing which doesn't happen (yet) on my netbook. Maybe these differences account for the different experiences people have...Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-15055120003070041542009-03-16T15:50:00.000+01:002009-03-16T15:50:00.000+01:00Well, pretty good article and looot of comments. I...Well, pretty good article and looot of comments. I've kind of red all off them (annoying "I Love" :P ).<BR/><BR/>I'm using Linux since year 2000, and KDE4.x is the first desktop that I'm getting to really like. I was using each available DE at some point of my "Linux life", and in the past few years I settled with KDE 3.x.x. The biggest usability improvement (for me) came with Compiz/Beryl. It was not just eye-candy but really great stuff. Now I congratulate the KDE4 devels to be able to concentrate and implement the really useful stuff from Compiz in their DE.<BR/><BR/>And for those who say KDE4 is slow ... Before I had KDE3.5.x, SuperKaramba and Compiz ... KDE4 with twice as much plasmoids and it's own 3D uses less than half CPU of what 3.5.x did.<BR/><BR/>So, I'm for KDE4, and I'm not a new user with eye-candy only desktop (I use command line more than probably most of the commenters here ever did).<BR/><BR/>And as a conclusion. A DE is a DE. It presents the graphics and tries to organize it in a logical way. It is a combination of art and technology. Both art and technology are very much just a user preference these days. You can have your job done both in KDE and Gnome or in any other DE, it is just the user preference which makes the differences.<BR/>I like how KDE4.x looks (even if I hate Vista and I never tried Win7), you may like how Gnome looks, others like how other DE look ... that's the way it is. There is no good or bad, there no beautiful or ugly ... all lies in the eyes of the beholder.Patkós Csabahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03865572536612327226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-61003349425553435412009-03-16T14:49:00.000+01:002009-03-16T14:49:00.000+01:00@maninalift: thanks. It's a very nice theme!@maninalift: thanks. It's a very nice theme!Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-21041283306150778672009-03-16T14:03:00.000+01:002009-03-16T14:03:00.000+01:00I mean "here you _go_"I mean "here you _go_"maninalifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08040522135159233946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-19716427866941567122009-03-16T14:02:00.000+01:002009-03-16T14:02:00.000+01:00@jospoortvliet here you do@jospoortvliet<BR/><A HREF="http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plateau?content=97720" REL="nofollow"> here you do</A>maninalifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08040522135159233946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12366865.post-80396184207641707872009-03-15T10:51:00.000+01:002009-03-15T10:51:00.000+01:00@karye: I recommend to ask in the #plasma channel,...@karye: I recommend to ask in the #plasma channel, they might know. or the plasma-devel mailinglist...Jos Poortvliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243886270488333877noreply@blogger.com